Successful IB to ESA transfer without having a medical
Got the dreaded brown envelope this morning, and it was an even worse
Got the dreaded brown envelope this morning, and it was an even worse
feeling than waiting for exam results! But after a couple of mugs of coffee
I managed to get up the courage to open it, and I appear to have got into
the WRAG group WITHOUT having to have a medical!
I was one of the early transfers from IB to ESA (it started in March for me)
I was one of the early transfers from IB to ESA (it started in March for me)
and had already had 3 Atos medicals for IB so I was dreading yet another
visit to that particular nightmare.
I couldn't have managed to complete my form as well without all the advice
I couldn't have managed to complete my form as well without all the advice
on this forum and the fantastic guides from benefitsandwork, in fact I couldn't
even manage to look at the form, let alone complete it, until I had the guides
to "hold my hand" through each question.
Pompeylass
How 1 point becomes 15 in bogus medicals
Dear Subscriber,
When we set out last week to write a relatively brief guide to being moved
Pompeylass
How 1 point becomes 15 in bogus medicals
Dear Subscriber,
When we set out last week to write a relatively brief guide to being moved
from incapacity benefit to employment and support allowance (ESA), we
knew that we would be highlighting big differences between the two medical
tests.
We also knew that we would be revealing a big drop in the number of
We also knew that we would be revealing a big drop in the number of
opportunities to score points for physical health conditions - though we
weren't expecting it to be quite so huge.
For incapacity benefit, the personal capability assessment (PCA) had 14
For incapacity benefit, the personal capability assessment (PCA) had 14
physical activities with 70 point scoring descriptors and a total of 786 points.
Under the work capability assessment (WCA) for ESA there are now just
10 physical activities with 30 descriptors and a total of 330 points.
That's an almost 60% cut in the number of points available.
But what we didn't expect to find was that for mental health there are at
That's an almost 60% cut in the number of points available.
But what we didn't expect to find was that for mental health there are at
least three descriptors in the PCA that scored just 1 point, but under the
new WCA they are potentially worth 15 points, depending on the severity
of your condition.
We had to ask ourselves how it could be that one day the way your mental
We had to ask ourselves how it could be that one day the way your mental
health affects you could be worth just a single point and yet, the following
day, the same effect could be regarded as so incapacitating that you should
score 15 points and be awarded benefits as unable to work.
We also had to wonder how it could be that 60% of the points awarded under
We also had to wonder how it could be that 60% of the points awarded under
the physical health test for incapacity benefit turn out to have been over-
generous errors.
The truth, of course, is that both the PCA and the WCA are bogus pseudo-
The truth, of course, is that both the PCA and the WCA are bogus pseudo-
science created largely by organisations with vested interests in the outcome.
They have nothing whatsoever to do with the reality of the effects of long-term
health conditions or disabilities.
We can't change that truth, but we can at least do our best to ensure that if
We can't change that truth, but we can at least do our best to ensure that if
you are an IB claimant you have all the information needed to get every point
you are entitled to under the WCA.
Our 24 page 'Being Transferred from IB to ESA' guide includes:
Our 24 page 'Being Transferred from IB to ESA' guide includes:
- Answers to the most common questions about being transferred from IB to ESA.
- The text of the letter you will receive when the process begins.
- A first-hand account from a member of the phone call you will receive from a decision maker who, as it turns out, could almost have been reading aloud from one of our guides.
- A comparison, where it's possible, of the physical health tests for IB and for ESA - highlighting the ways in which the tests have changed.
- Suggestions as to which mental health points for incapacity benefit may be relevant to ESA - the tests are too different for direct comparison.
- A comparison of the exemptions and exceptional circumstances for IB and for ESA
Combined with our step-by-step guides to completing the ESA questionnaire and attending
a medical, our new guide to the transfer process should ensure that you are as well prepared
as it's possible to be for the process you will be obliged to undergo.
If you are a subscribing member, you can download our new guide from the ESA section of
If you are a subscribing member, you can download our new guide from the ESA section of
the Benefits and Work members area now.
OTHER NEWS
In our last newsletter we wrote about the possibility of becoming self-employed as a way
OTHER NEWS
In our last newsletter we wrote about the possibility of becoming self-employed as a way
of escaping the treadmill of ESA medicals.
We received lots of comments in response and this highly cautionary tale from one
We received lots of comments in response and this highly cautionary tale from one
member threatened with prosecution and homelessness for being self-employed.
Former athlete Steve Cram has also become homeless, at least on Facebook,
Former athlete Steve Cram has also become homeless, at least on Facebook,
after agreeing to become the Atos ambassador for the 2012 Olympic and
Paralympics games. His Facebook page appears to have been taken down after
it was filled with howls of anger and outrage from sick and disabled claimants.
(We were going to give you a link to his page but, obviously, that's not currently possible)
There are further howls of protest, this time at the BBC, following its decision
to close the BBC Ouch Forum next month. The forum is described by the BBC
itself as the �beating heart� of Ouch, the BBC�s disability website. Users
are now being advised by the BBC to go to Facebook and Twitter instead, a
suggestion which is being met with fury because of the lack of anonymity and
protection from harassment on those platforms.
No outrage, however from Professor Malcolm Harrington. The government's
No outrage, however from Professor Malcolm Harrington. The government's
independent reviewer of the WCA describes himself in an interim report as
'pleased and gratified' at the progress made by the DWP in making the work
capability assessment fairer and more responsive.
Sadly, but perhaps not surprisingly, Harrington does not detail any consultation
Sadly, but perhaps not surprisingly, Harrington does not detail any consultation
with claimants, admits that charities have not reported any improvements and
entirely ignores the effects of the new, harsher work capability assessment.
Another man with a talent for ignoring large chunks of reality is Chris Grayling, employment
Another man with a talent for ignoring large chunks of reality is Chris Grayling, employment
minister. Grayling has shamelessly denied that the government bears any responsibility
"Sometimes stories run in a way that completely bemuse me," he told the work and pensions committee, adding, however, that "I don't control... the editorial tone of the newspapers."
Which doesn't mean, of course, that he doesn't privately delight in it or know very well
what effect his press releases are likely to have.
Meanwhile, Grayling launched the new work programme last week. 500 charities are now
Meanwhile, Grayling launched the new work programme last week. 500 charities are now
fighting over the scraps the huge private sector providers who won all the big contracts
are being obliged to toss to them. You can download a full list of the charities involved.
There's more snippets in our Stop Press News section, which we're hoping to expand
and improve over the next few weeks. More on that in the next newsletter. Harking back momentarily to the last newsletter, we've been asked by the After Atos website we mentioned there to point out that they have an anonymous survey which people who have had
an Atos ESA medical can complete. The results are published for use by campaigners.
Finally, as ever, we finish on a cheerier note with some positive feedback from the forum
From 0 to 33 points on ESA appeal
Higher rate mobility and middle rate care backdated for two years
Successful IB to ESA transfer without medical
Won ESA tribunal
Successful ESA appeal
Higher rate mobility for chronic fatigue syndrome
Higher rate care and higher rate mobility on initial claim
DLA tribunal wins ESA appeal
ESA support group with no medical
Higher rate care and higher rate mobility on renewal without medical
6 points to 18 points on ESA appeal
PLEASE PASS ME ON
Please forward this newsletter to anyone you think might be interested. You are also
Finally, as ever, we finish on a cheerier note with some positive feedback from the forum
From 0 to 33 points on ESA appeal
Higher rate mobility and middle rate care backdated for two years
Successful IB to ESA transfer without medical
Won ESA tribunal
Successful ESA appeal
Higher rate mobility for chronic fatigue syndrome
Higher rate care and higher rate mobility on initial claim
DLA tribunal wins ESA appeal
ESA support group with no medical
Higher rate care and higher rate mobility on renewal without medical
6 points to 18 points on ESA appeal
PLEASE PASS ME ON
Please forward this newsletter to anyone you think might be interested. You are also
welcome to reproduce this newsletter on your blog, website, forum or newsletter.
You can read this newsletter online.
Good luck,
Steve Donnison
Benefits and Work Publishing Ltd
Company registration No. 5962666
If you're not already a member, find out how to subscribe to Benefits and Work
You can read this newsletter online.
Good luck,
Steve Donnison
Benefits and Work Publishing Ltd
Company registration No. 5962666
If you're not already a member, find out how to subscribe to Benefits and Work
and give yourself the best possible chance of getting the right decision.
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